Daniel Bryan released by WWE

[BlackMage5072]

Credit: F4WOnline.com

Based on the NXT storyline from this week's RAW, Bryan Danielson is now officially "gone and buried" from WWE. Dave Meltzer is reporting that his close friends believe he has been fired, he has talked to other promotions about working dates, and TNA has contacted him about coming in. Obviously, he would have the standard 90-day no compete clause in his release.

[alex0816]

TNA's contacted him? oh hell yea, now he'll be able to put on great fuckin matches wit angle,aj,wolfe,pope,hardy,rvd,kaz,joe,lethal, and many others and we can see a more roh style danielson. rather see these matches insted of him jobbin to cena and hhh in wwe and he'd probably have half his moveset takin away because we all know wwe doesnt give a crap about wrestling anymore and only care about sponsers and keeping their wrestlers safe, u fuckin pussies. and wit the possibility of dixie carter's big surprise being paul heyman, tna will be very intersesting to watch imo ;D

[BlackMage5072]

Nope. TNA will probably just fuck him up too.

[alex0816]

how?, by having him work against people who can wrestle? c'mon, we all know if he had stayed wit wwe, cena woulda buried him at some point in what would of been a lazy match, in tna he'll be able to wrestle wit wrestlers of his level like aj,rvd,angle, and all the others i've mentioned. better than being a jobber and wouldnt be mocked by a piece o shit commentator in wwe, he'd be loved by a piece o shit commentator in tna ;D

[Valdora]

I'm calmer than I was yesterday but I still will not forgive WWE for giving into pressure. At least TNA care about the TV product over that crap.

[Board Admin]

Okay i have been trying to remain quiet about this as this may come off as a rant but i cannot hold it in anymore so here it goes everybody, grab a drink and read on!

Right now Danielson leaving/being fired is a stupid idea, like i said in a previous post they did write it in a way that sounded fixed i.e release Daniel Bryan but not Bryan Danielson. So that way instead of taking him off TV for so many weeks/months only to return him with a "NEW" gimmick they can quickly bring Danielson back onto TV. Now saying this WWE have done similar things like this before with Jeff Hardy back in 2008 when he got attacked in the stairwell, Most big news stations not only in the US but around the world were breaking the news as a legit story and it was only Matt Hardy at the actual Survivor Series PPV who said that actually no Hardy is fine and it turned into a storyline by WWE. SO WWE have done this kind of story before so keep that in mind.

Secondly even though it SHOULD NOT be like this, you have to remember that WWE has now become more of a BUISNESS then that of a sports product. So before you say it was a bad decision, look at both sides of the fence. Okay WWE are the richest wrestling company in the world but you still want to make as much profit as you can, and currently in the midst of coming out this economic recession you need to make as much profit and you can while trying to downplay all of your negatives. So when WWE released Danielson it was in my opinion more of a buisness decision. Like i said i dont think in there right mind they could make Danielson draw big bucks and the same goes with TNA, they have not done justice to Nigel McGuinness (Desmond Wolfe) as he started off good but he is now floundering around in a stupid who got my woman storyline. WWE would not have the ability to make Danielson the mega star that everyone thinks he can be.

Now i gave my explanation that people will say that Punk is a former ROH talent and he is getting over but that is the same style of gimmick that Punk was doing in ROH so doing it in WWE has no difference except he has to tone it to a PG level rating. Danielson was hired by WWE back in september 2009 and remember people keep in the kayfabe of the company, NXT is about viying to become contracted by the WWE enough for you to be on TV, Danielson lost end of story no contract to him, they still used him and done the whole one night only deal with him when he beat Miz and thats fair enough but you have to keep under the kayfabe that Danielson was "TECHNICALLY" not under contract by WWE so he can't be fired, which increases the liklihood that this could be a work.

Onto the mentioned reason as to why Danielson was said to be released and honestly if anything WWE was in there right mind to release, regardless of whether Danielson knew about the 'Benoit Protocal' or not, It was quite a disturbing image and whether the cameraman or production truck meant to cut to Danielson choking out Justin Roberts or not, either way it could make some negative publicity to the company if they go onto keep praising Danielson even though he is technically committing a criminal offence if you take it too reality which WWE want to try and move towards. Bringing me onto what WWE are onto now, the PG Level of show.

I have mentioned reasonings already for pro and anti reasons for the PG level so i will not go into that again, but remember WWE has it's cycles of which we go through on a regular basis. Federation to Kids to Attitude to Wrestling to Reality to Federation to Kids/PG that kind of cycle is what WWE has gone through the last twenty or so years. Right now we hit the PG level and people are going, well that means Attitude comes next, WRONG!, Attitude ONLY happened because WCW was kicking WWF's ass in ratings for like a year, this is 2010 and there is no REAL threat to WWE and it's ratings. the most threatful to WWE right now is UFC but that is fo far and beyond WWE in terms of ratings and buyrates and everything like that, that it will take a miracle for anyone to dent the armor of UFC.

People have been suggesting that the Jericho/JBL strangulation segment that happened was confined during the PG era, you would be incorrect. That happend around December 2007 to February 2008, WWE did not come out to say they were PG till around May 2008 which ironically was right around the time of Extreme Rules, although later that year the PPV's then became a PG rated product. so by using this segment in defence of saying well explain that you cannot, alot of the PG protcols dont come into effect until it was announced and before then the only rule of WWE at the time was not to choke anyone for the sake of choking it, both JBL and Jericho were high ranking WWE stars so they had the backing of the company to do the sgement, plus they done that segment with the know how of keeping it safe for both people without causing any real problems. What Danielson done is LEGITAMTLEY began to choke out Justin Roberts and that is what WWE has the problem with, it wasnt that he was choking out Roberts it was the fact that he was actually doing it legit. People forget to read that and go oh he choked Roberts out, no he got him good and proper.

Before anyone says anything about sumbission manouvers being used let me reming you Punk's Anaconda Vice has not been used since the beginning of 2009, Yes he used it ONCE at Breaking Point but that was to signify a storyline contuation, Taker's Gogoplata (Hell's Gate) which he does not use anymore in favour of the Triangle Choke again simply for the fact that at the time he stopped using it his Knee's were playing out and that submission uses yours Knees and yours shins to effectively draw on the hold. There are other submission holds i can go on about but you need to think logically about the reasoning behind the stoppage of the hold before jumping to conclusion.

Honestly i am 100% behind WWE in what they did, Danielson broke the rules and broke the rules pretty badly and he should be punished, being instantly released is a bit of a what the hell, but like myself and DM say, its a shock tactic. If any of the other talent got released no-one would give a damn which is a shame because even though i did say at times they are "that" good of a wrestler they do deserve to be in the company, Danielson gets released they get the reaction they want to go, whether its more of a reatcions because of the storyline between him and Cole and the invasion angle on Raw, is yet to be truly found out but WWE knows what they are doing. Like i said i am with WWE 100% of the way, even if the firing is legit and they go foward with the storyline just rubbing out any mention of Danielson, i am fine with that because it's a buisness. Yes it has wrestling on the shows and thats it's main source of income but the underlying fact of this company is that of a buisness!

In conlusion to all of what i bring i up i believe that if it is a storyline then WWE have had the boot up there ass and i can safely say that this storyline is perpetuating very nicley, should it be a legit firing and Danielson now is gone for good, then it's a shame but him being released should not mean that WWE now sucks and the whole invasion angle is now crap, i find that frustrating because ONE person does not make a sgement, yes Danielson was the most known person there in the group but the entire group of the invasion played off very well and everyone played there spots, so by shooting down WWE just because of all people Danielson gets fired and that Raw is now sucky again i find just idiotic.

Take the note and compare to myself that would be like me saying to ROH that i wont watch your product anymore because Danielson and McGuinness has left. did i stop NO! i was annoyed he was released but i didnt ever once cross my mind that i would stop watching the show...why? Because one or two people do not make a show they still have excellent wrestling talent, and more then enough for me to sit there and watch quite happily.

I am behind WWE on the decision they made and i am happy to do so!

[Valdora]

I see what your saying James but I have some counter points:

I did not turn against the angle or WWE as soon as I knew the firing was legit. I watched Raw and it wasn't unil I saw the segments that I got mad. Sorry but the segments on Raw SUCKED, they did not feel real instead they felt like typical scripted WWE. That is my problem. And the explanation for his firing was worse than burying him in my opinion. For me one guy DID make the make the NXT thing in that it made it feel real and made me care, now if the segments were done well enough to make me care about of the others on Raw other than Barret then I would conceed but in that they failed badly. Without Danielson this is just some FCW talent who were on the C level show for a few months forming a faction and thats how it was presented on Raw.

As far as WWE being in the right let me say this: SO they had this chokeing rule that nobody heard about until now? Ok whatever even if 1) I bet nobody told Danielson and 2) I believe it was a planned segment because otherwise why would the camera hold on it so long as it did. Only after the Linda or Matel reaction was ut taken out of the clips.
My biggest problem with it is that ok fair enough there is this stupid rule they choose to obey or not obey when it suits them, it shouldn't matter what level wrestler breaks the rules, they should all be punished equaully. Not to mention the fact that guys like JIMMY WANG FUCKING YANG have had three strikes on taking FUCKING DRUGS! But a minor rule break is enough for instant firing? Why not a fine or a suspension?

To me WWE have ruined the angle and ruined my interest in it, they have also destroyed my faith in the creative being able to take paramount over the political bullshit.

[BlackMage5072]

How has WWE destoyed the angle, Karl? One guy doesn't make an angle, and I completely disagree with you on all counts. No, the NXT thing doesn't appear "real", but we're a little too smart to dumb ourselves down to that level. OF COURSE it's entertainment, and it's not gonna look real. That's the kind of fans we are, we've done that to ourselves.

One guy doesn't destroy or make an angle. I thought that most of the rooks did VERY well in their character presentation, and the car-attack angle was done very, very well. Like a group of outlaws just goin' around tearin' shit up until they get their way.

Danielson bein' gone does damage the angle, but not beyond repair, and in my opinion, I think Monday proves that. The angle went over VERY well.

[Valdora]

Didn't mean so that we thought it was real. I meant to the point it was last week. Last week it felt like those events marks say "that wasn't to happen." And yes the extra violence made it. Hell I guess I will take an actually beating over a stupid car stunt any day.

[BlackMage5072]

It wasn't that car stunt that really made me flip out over it, and love it. It's the fact that it's essentially gang-warfare all over again, and I'm ALL FOR THAT kind of shit. I love it. Also, the fact that the rooks just tore the shit out of the backstage area is really, really cool. It hasn't been done to that degree before, I don't believe.

[Valdora]

No and I love Gang warfare too (see my fantasy). I just wasn't happy with the presentation of it.

I will list to two biggest mistakes:

1) In the first segment Bret told them to leave and they...did during the break? Why wouldn't they stand their ground in the ring until secuirty took them out. That was implied but I wanted to SEE it so it made more sense.

2) Before the last skit the light went out in the area for it, mistimed or not it had this "time for the pre-recorded segment to play" which is obviously what it was. And the fact the camera was a fly on the wall bothered me, but that always bothers me. It just had too many cuts, takes and coverage. I want it to feel gritty and real with the sense a real camera man is in the heat of it and trying not to get attacked himself.

[alex0816]

the problem wit dis is that danielson, even though not being the leader, was the most important person of the attack on cena last week and made it look as good as it did, and to fire him for chockin an announcer just because wwe are now a bunch of pussies who only want a good image for linda mcmahon. wwe obviously dont give a fuck about the fans because everybody loved the angle,especially danielson's part in it, but because wwe dont care about the fans, they released danielson 4 fuckin stupid reasons.

if danielson gets offered a job back in wwe, i'd say "FUCK U, IF IM NOT ALOUD TO CHOKE SOMEONE FOR 5 SECONDS, WHAT ELSE ARE YOU NOT GONNA LET ME DO?!!" imo, go to tna where paul heyman is comin in to book and he can wrestle to his ability insted of "THE WWE WAY" u know, the shitty fuckin way. at least tna listen to their fans, spoiler spoiler-abyss has been shoved down the fans throats like a masked cena and has gotten no crowd reaction or boos, tna realized this and turned him heel on this thursdays impact. another point as to y wwe dont care about their fans, cena gets booed 75% of the time, yet he wins and wins again and woulda buried danielson liked he's done to others in the past

[alex0816]

Shawn Michaels, who helped train Bryan Danielson, believed that Danielson's firing was legit. According to F4WOnline.com, Michaels was said to be "furious" over what happened.

[DM]

Well you think that's bad, PETA wants Danielson back too..and lord knows you don't fuck with PETA