single branded ppvs, who wants them back?

[alex0816]

remember from 2003-06, wwe had a very good ppv format, you would have 4 raw, 4 SD, and the big 4 ppvs where both brands were represented. i likeed this concept, you got something different at ppv as opposed to the same match at 3 or 4 ppvs(cena-orton anyone). the unified tag titles would be defended at every ppv since they appear on every show, during a SD ppv a team from SD would challenge them, smae with raw. you can have 8 matches, 4 would be title matches.
heres an example of how a SD ppv would look like:

you can have-
1.dolph ziggler vs shelton benjamin(number 1 conttender for ic)
2.showmiz vs hart dynasty(uttc)
3.beth pheonix vs michelle mcsuck vs mickie(womens)
4.cm punk vs. rey
5.john morrison vs kane
6.drew mcintyre vs matt hardy(ic)
7.edge vs jericho
8.jack swagger vs undertaker(whc)

this to me looks like an excellent ppv, you have most of the superstars on this card, the only ones missing are the ones no one cares about(mike knox, goldust) so they dont deserve to be on the ppv anyway. this gives you good midcard fueds and can showcase alot of the talents of each show.

I say fuck gimmick ppvs and bring back single branded ppvs, who agrees?

[BlackMage5072]

I can totally see it working, but the problem isn't the fact of the matter that all the matches are constant rematches and shit like that, we've been having the same problems for about three or four years now:

Too many pay per views. It's the fact that, between shows, there's NO time to build up any big rivalries or feuds or anything. I suggest anywhere from 6-8 ppv's a year.

Royal Rumble (January)
Wrestlemania (March)
Backlash (April)
King of the Ring (June)
Great American Bash (July)
Summerslam (August)
Halloween Havoc (October)
Survivor Series (November)

I could see something like that working, it's enough ppv's to make things interesting, plus it gives plenty of time between ppv's to build feuds, or enough ppv's in the summer to stretch them out and end them properly.

I just see that working better than 12 a month, although I DO like your idea as well... that works pretty damn solidly, but later, when they started doing sometimes 2 a month, it got wayyyyy oversaturated.

[DM]

The single branded PPV's used to work but the problem is there's less exposure that way. WWE is into making money and they know putting the right amount of talent from both brands in a single PPV makes the most revenue.

You would have a lot of rematches as BM stated before though what may help is that the 'story lines' may get more drawn out that way, if they can't win this month, wait two months and you get your 'rematch' which in a sense does help.

[alex0816]

i just dont get that wwe wants to push the younger talent, but every ppv has the same guys-cena, batista,orton,jericho, edge,and hhh in every main event. the way that guys like ziggler,morrison,hart dynasty, and even the dudebusters can get over and become main eventers is if you give them exposure and not only show them on superstars because a lot of people dont even watch it anyway. they are trying to push the younger stars, but they're not pushing the right ones, i no im not the only one who would rather see morrison and mvp in the main event insted of sheamus and swagger.

[Board Admin]

That's your opinion which is fair enough but remember this is a business and whilst from a fan stand point people want to see MVP and Morrison be elevated to a world title picture etc etc from a company stand point Swagger and Sheamus would make a better idea. Like we said in the PG threa WWE is in a cycle, right now going through the motion of a federation ish style with alot more focus on wrestling and trying to create new stars to go against established stars. MVP and Morrison and established stars which is why they are being used to help elevate newer stars.

Plus look at MVP's and Morrison's track records behind the scenes, whilst there not bad in any way, there not also they great, Morrison got busted for drugs and lost the ECW title in 2007 due to it, he has been IC champ 3 times but has never done anything of real rememberance apart from when he has either won or lost the belt, which is why i think WWE have not used his simply for the fact that Morrison cannot handle a WORLD title reign.

With MVP there is backstage heat he was making in 07/08 and was close to beng stripped of the title early into his run for being a complete dick backstage but he improved and is now liked, also to mention his heart condition which was found around 2007 so the chances of him being a world champ are VASTLY reduced because as a world champ your expected to be the face of the company and with a dodgy heart you are not going to be able to do everything that a company wants regardless of how keen and able you think you are.

The reason WWE have pushed guys like Swagger and Sheamus, although reports according to some saying it's because of certain people which i find monoric, it's just because people cant handle the fact that someone dfferent is getting over, the reason they are picking Swagger and Sheamus is because it fits with the era of wrestling that we are in. As i said we are currently in the era of federation and that means great wrestlers that can do really well. I am not counting out Morrison and MVP as bad wrestlers because they arnt but they are not what WWE are after right now. Sheamus and Swagger are the federtaion styles wrestlers that WWE have moudled and are going for and by doing this the era they are in will be utilised well and effectively in gaining attention towards WWE

In answer to the original question DM and myself has had lenghty dicussions over the problems with WWE PPV's and have said that you go back to brand PPV's or you go right back to around 1985-1992 when there was only 6 or so PPV's a year and build a storyline meant 2/3 months of initial build with the ending coming at either Wrestlemania or Survivor Series. Personally i prefer brand PPV's but WWE are after the money and economics of wrestling so having joint PPV's is a smart idea because people will fork out more for name rather than a PPV full of talent people dont really want to see and are paying for a main event in cases.